Gay or Bi? Incredibly hot or incredibly cute?

Gayest thing that ever walked the Earth.

He's not out though, is he?

He'd be a nice gay. I always wanted Drew to come out on Parenthood.

He might have been a better choice as Peter Parker/Spiderman instead of Englishman Tom Holland.

Emo Hipster. Gf pegs him.

[quote]Gayest thing that ever walked the Earth.

Oh hon, puhleeze. That delicate hothouse flower hasn't WALKED in years. She minces.

Not hot for me nor cute.

Pleasant looking and benign is how I would describe him.

Are you guys actually talking about this person who looks 14 years old? Yikes! (And don't bother with "he's legal". He looks like a young kid).

R9's dick hasn't worked since the '70s.

His acting was so flat on Parenthood, I'm surprised he's still working.

r23 He acted that way to keep the purses from falling out, even though they did once or twice.

R20 You must be suffering from some form of delusion where you think everybody whether they are younger or older looks their age.. There are plenty of people who look far younger than their years naturally without cosmetic help and the same goes for people who look much older than their actual years and that could be because of genes or hard living.

His downplayed acting was good on Parenthood since it's believable, though it made for a weird contrast against all the over-acting by the rest of the cast (I mean, they were "normal" people, they should be quite un-dramatic). He played a gay kid on Private Practice though, and was pretty good if I remember correctly.

But yes, very pretty, probably a unnerving hipster druggie with pot and ecstacy habits. Could be great tv-actor though, in longer character arcs.

Great assessment, r26 - that's exactly it. He would have been good in something like "Boyhood" but he seemed out-of-sync with the other Parenthood actors.

Androgynous li'l thing, isn't s/he?

I would love to be that Eames chair, R33.

And thank you to R25. I looked like I was 16 until I was 24, maybe, and 24 until I was 32 (I didn't have to shave every day until I was 28). If it were up to prisses like R20, I would have had to wait until then to have sex.

As far as Drew's being quiet went, how could he have gotten a word in edgewise, growing up with Sarah and Amber as his family?

Girly legs. Is he clean...down there?

Cute. Hardly "incredibly handsome". 22. Walk across any quality college's campus. Dime a dozen young men look like this.

[quote][R20] You must be suffering from some form of delusion where you think everybody whether they are younger or older looks their age.. There are plenty of people who look far younger than their years naturally without cosmetic help and the same goes for people who look much older than their actual years and that could be because of genes or hard living.

Uh-huh. Rationalize much?

You don't think what r20 says is true, r45?

BFF with Mae Whitman and they lived together? Gay.

Joachim Phoenix played that role superbly in the movie. Pseudo-goth, brooding, insecure, secretive. In other words, interesting. Unfortunately, they made Drew a milquetoast nothing in the series, so in that sense, he was perfectly cast.

Who the hell is Joachim Phoenix?

[Quote]Incredibly hot or incredibly cute?

Incredibly neither.

r52 What's the matter, he's not Rocco Steele?

He looks like he'd be a boring lay. He'd probably just lay there like a dead fish as he was getting plowed, no enthusiasm whatsoever and whining every few minutes to slow it down.

r54 I think he'd be delicate and very moany; and I'd have no trouble slowing down for him.

He's hot if you always wanted to fuck Audrey Hepburn.

A little long in the tooth for most people here. We call him "Grampa Heizer."

He looks like he takes himself way too seriously to be any fun.

I'm not the only one that assumes that if Parenthood were real life that Uncle Adam and Drew would have spent a lot of "alone time" together, right?

No, you're not the only one :)

He seems to be out without being Out.

Brandon Flynn's Instagram page. He and Miles work(ed) together on 13 Reasons Why. Boyfriends? Why the girl in r70, then? Out, but not super-out? Brandon is the straight boy Miles is in love with? Vice versa?

Who can say?

That's the worst kind of out

r73 I don't know who she is, but she should leave those boys alone.

I'm not a huge fan of his current look, but I've always found him dreamy. Love Parenthood.

Yes OP he's absolutely "Datalounge Hot".

Datalounge hot = average to blow average

As has already been pointed out. You will find 10 of him on any street corner.

He's gay, right? He played straight in 13 Reasons Why and it wasn't believable at all. He has gay voice and mannerisms.

He is cute and hot. And he's not even close to being "DL Hot," which is another way of saying "fitfat dudebro with an ugly face."

I'm going to have to re-up my Netflix subscription to watch 13 Reasons Why. I hate platinum blond hair, though. Drew should have been gay.

They make a cute couple, R76.

r90 Yup. After watching him in "13 Reasons Why", Im more convinced than ever he's gay.

Looks like he's linked with his 13 Reasons Why costar Brandon Flynn

I really hope it's true! I want nothing but happiness for Miles. I've loved him since Parenthood and wanted him to come out on the show, but they wrote his character as straight, which was such bullshit.

Someone on twitter said they're just friends and they fangirls are making them a thing, which is typical. Still though... Miles has no business being straight.

[quote]Emo Hipster

What's an Emo Hipster? I'm unfamiliar with that term.

Also, anyone want to guess the average age of this kid's adoring fans on DL?

I say 45.

For r99:

[quote][bold]Emo[/bold]: a style of rock music resembling punk but having more complex arrangements and lyrics that deal with more emotional subjects.

[quote][bold]Hipster[/bold]: a person who follows the latest trends and fashions, especially those regarded as being outside the cultural mainstream.

Skinny and dull white think. When is he transitioning?

Born in Kentucky. Likely a stank sleeve. Pass.

r100 I started this thread and I'm 24.

If he is indeed straight, he is the most incapable of PLAYING straight than any straight actor ever. When he first appeared on 13 REASONS, I thought. "oh, finally, he's playing gay" but inexplicably, they cast him as straight and not one of the gay characters!

And it pissed me off his character never came out on PARENTHOOD.

[quote]it pissed me off his character never came out on PARENTHOOD.

What was Jason Katims thinking? I figured he must have been a big old homophobe until I realized he EPed My So-Called Life. So I went back to "What was Jason Katims thinking, not making Drew gay?"

He's the gayest of gay on 13 Reasons Why.

R106 I don't think Katims is homophobic. There was a minor gay subplot during either the second or fourth season of Friday Night Lights involving the assistant coach, I believe. Also, the daughter Hallie in Parenthood came out in the final season I believe. She brought her girlfriend home and everything, but considering where the show took place I'm surprised it wasn't more representative of its gay nature. There is something ultimately wholesome about these two shows though, so it doesn't surprise me.

But as others have said, they really should have made Drew gay. I really liked him, and it would have added a great dimension to the character. Oh well.

Someone on ONTD said Miles is known to troll fans on social media, so the pics of him and his co-star don't prove anything. They are probably not together, they just want attention. Notice how neither of them have commented on the rumor, I think that's very telling. Someone on ONTD also said that they knew his ex-gf. I think thry were talking about Miles, but they could have been talking about "Justin" idk, it was confusing as they didn't mention whose ex-gf they were talking about.

Basically there is no proof they are together or that either is even bi or gay, so take this rumor with a huge grain of salt.

R106, because when push comes to shove, the producers ALWAYS make a character lesbian, not gay (male). There is still too much homophobia to risk making a cahracter gay. Adding a lesbian on a show is a safe bet because the fanboys find it hot. It makes me laugh when people say "he's not homophobic... he added a lesbian!" That IS homophobic you idiot. He added a lesbian because even homophobes LOVE lesbians. Why do you think there are so many lesbians on tv compared to gay male characters? Newsflash it's easier adding lesbians because they are more accepted. Fanboys jerk off to it. If I had a dime every time someone told me "lesbians are hot but gay men make me uncomfortable", I'd be rich. This is also why I laugh when lesbians try to play the victim card. Gay men are still the victims of most hate crimes, yet the NUS thinks we aren't "oppressed anymore". Say that to the hundreds who get gay bashed every year.

Again, adding a lesbian on Parenthood and Friday Night Lights made sense. The shows were both conservative. They would however never in a million years add a gay character, not even when one was BEGGING to be made gay (Drew on Parenthood). This is a parallell to Orphan Black where the gay guy was the only one without a boyfriend. The actor had to BEG the producer to find the character a bf, but it never happened. The lesbians got to make out and have sex all the time though.. of course. It's obvious that bigotry is still behind it.

R110, I hear what you're saying, especially about lesbians being hot to fanboys, but calling me an idiot is untoward. Also, you didn't actually read what I said. There was a gay male in Friday Night Lights. The lesbian was only in Parenthood, so your argument doesn't hold much water in relation to Katims.

So.. is he gay or not? Is he dating Brandon?

Lesbian characters (or girl on girl action in porn) is considered entertainment for straight men who see it as women performing FOR them. Gay characters (and gay sex in gay porn) devalue the, very very outdated, perception of men being the strong gender who protects, provides, top on the hierarchy system calling the shots. In some people's heads you cannot do that or represent that when you act like a hysteric woman who just broke her fingernail.

A guy like Miles Heizer in some "hero who saves the day" role would make some people's head explode and question some people's perception about what (certain) gay men are capable of.

So, do you think Miles is gay, R114? And do you think he's dating Brandon? My guess is he's either bi or gay, but he's not dating Brandon. I think they are just close friends and somewhat trolling fans.

Or they're somewhat trolling fans by day, R115, and somewhat sucking each other's cock by night.

Brandon is definitely gay. He's obsessed with Rupaul's Drag Race. See the video for yourself. Anyway, at least in "13 Reasons Why", he plays a straight guy convincingly, unlike his alleged boyfriend. I always thought Miles' character, Alex was gay until he said he was still in love with Jessica.

To be honest I thought that the Alex and Jessica romance on 13 Reasons Why would turn out to be a bearding arrangement so Alex would be accepted by that jock group of Justin, Bryce, and Zach. I was suprised that this didn't turn out to be the case.

The more you all say about 13 Reasons Why, the less it appeals to me. I was just about to re-up my Netflix subscription, but I think I'll first catch up on the network TV I missed this week.

Brandon Flynn played Mike the Intern on last summer's Aaron Tveit Program. I liked Mike the Intern almost as much as Gareth, and wished Mike had lived long enough for them to have a penis exchange.

R121 The congressman boss was totally coded as being in the closet by the pretty boys he hires. Mike the intern was in only episode 7 and his internship ended abruptly.

[bold]You’ll Never Guess Which Two '13 Reasons Why' Actors Are Dating IRL[/bold]

If, like us, you spent all weekend indoors watching 13 Reasons Why, then prepare to be thrilled because we have some really great news for you.

It turns out that two of the actors in the series are actually dating in real life, and honestly we’ve never been more immediately obsessed with a couple more in our entire lives.

Yep, Justin Foley and Alex Standall, aka Brandon Flynn and Miles Heizer, are totally a thing and Twitter is understandably freaking out with joy.

Is R124 Brandon Flynn the love child of Tom Everett Scott and Hugh Dancy?

Miles always looks awkward kissing a girl.

Cute couple. They need to "leak" a sex tape. I wonder who it the top and who is the bottom???

R119, that would have made so much more sense and been more watchable than what actually played out on screen. I was laughing when Alex was pouting because Jessica wouldn't sleep with him. I was like girl you don't even like pussy anyway lol.

R128, is it even a question? I thought it was obvious?

In regards to Parenthood, tv shows that hire kids that grow up on the show also are very careful with the young actors. The crew and cast become like families and it can become tricky if you have a budding gay on your hands but you don't want to push him out of the closet before he's ready. I think that was an issue with Miles. I think it's also been an issue with the boy(s) on Modern Family. They are trying to be respectful of the actors coming to terms with their own sexuality first instead of saying "they seem gay so let's write them that way" and then freaking these kids out.

Way back in the 90s Roseanne had planned on making Michael Fishburns character gay but in that era felt it would be too much for the kid to handle in real life who, by the way, did not grow up to be gay.

Miles is playing a bisexual character in Simon Vs. the Homo Sapiens Agenda. :)

Even bisexual is a stretch for him.

R133 He looks so much better with longer brown hair and in profile.

What is going on here, is this his coming out? Or is he just talking about the whore necklace?

Miles is Post-Orientation.

r137 I think he's rejecting any labels for his sexuality. I still believe hes gay, though.

I'm surprised there aren't fangirls on twitter going crazy and denying he's anything but 100% straight.

R140, because most people can see he's not, also I think many fangirls "ship" him and Brandon. I've seen so many comments from fangirls who were confused about Alex being into Jess because they all thought he was gay (lol). So trust me when I say we aren't the only ones thinking Miles is incapable of playing straight... at least believably.

r141 He played straight on Parenthood, but I didn't believe it then either. :)

So.. it's confirmed that Miles and Brandon are just friends, and it was just a bromance all along.. what a surprise. I hate to say I told you so, but.. I told you so. I never thought they were more than just friends. PS: I still think Miles is gay, he is barely even in the closet anymore with that "rejecting labels" post on Instagram.

R146 They are not dating... they are just fucking.

Still think both of them are gay

r133 I read the book. It was very cute. I liked that the main character was normal and quirky at the same time. Anyway, I'm dissapointed that they cast a straight guy in a gay role again. (The main character's Simon will be played by Nick Robinson, who is straight as far as we know.) I wish Miles was the lead. He would have been perfect as Simon. The character he portrays, Cal, has only a minor role.

Nick Robinson could be gay, R149? He's had gay rumors for years.

r150 What are the rumors?

Idk.. not rumors per se.. just people thinking he's gay.

Every young attractive famous male has gay rumors.

But isn't Nick Robinson kinda effiminate? He might be gay.

Miles is gay for sure. He basically came out with that Instagram post.

R117 Are there any known straight men who are "obsessed" with RuPaul's Drag Race?

R117, he is NOT with Miles. The "alleged boyfriend" is not "alleged" anymore as it's not true, see the linked video.

r157 Just because they're denying it doesn't mean it's not true.

Poodle, was that two guys or two gals?

I'm a funny lesbian, I'm Ellen!

Honestly? I think he's a top.

R154? Just because a guy is not a roided-out, mutant-dicked bohunk like the ones you obsessively jerk-off to doesn't mean he's "effeminate."

Oh come on... Miles is obviously a bottom.

Ok, I think Miles is a given so let's investigate Brandon. Here are the pics he likes on FB. Nothing blatantly gay but he does like a few pictures of guys who are obviously gay. Overall, I do get some gay/bi vibes from his likes.

He also used this pic as his profile picture for a while. His mom commented on it saying she took it and loved it.

BTW, the way he flirts with the camera in R117 's video reminds me of a young Leonardo Di Caprio.

Brandon liked this old pic of Robert Gant. Wow

R168 Does that mean he is a bottom, too?

R168 I don't see that pic among Brandon's likes. Sorry.

It was on the page of likes that R165 linked to

Yeah, I scrolled through that page at R165 a few times and didn't see R168's picture either.

R173 should've had R172 in the text and R168 for the posted by

R173 That's interesting... below is what I see. The photo should be right around there. The cutie in the tank is also missing on my end. Wonder why that is.

R173 I don't get the three solo pictures of guys.

The guy in the red tank R176

Ooh, he also liked this picture of the tank top guy. I saw this on my feed, but not the other picture.

Not for nothin', but he's got nice nips.

And a nice ass. Yeah, I'm thinking Brandon's gay.

Okay, since we're doing a session of group e-stalking. Here are pictures Brandon commented on.

Pages like. Really boring.

In that instagram post he reminds me of Patrick Schwarzenegger ;-)

Brandon is gay and he's not hiding it. There's no need for speculation.

The question shouldn't be if Miles and Brandon are gay but if they're a couple

Seems like they have momma Flynn's blessing , see R166 .

Has Miles experienced this position yet?

All I see in that picture are teeth. Funny, that Miles has perfect teeth and Brandon's are jacked up. Brandon needs perfect American teeth to become a big actor.

Yeah, Brandon is family. He was all over Christian Navarro's IG story yesterday, looking sassy and watching RPDR with the crew down there in Brazil. And then just posted...

Miles is our total top patriarch.

R187, yet a rep denied that they were dating.

They probably aren't dating if they're both big ole bottoms.

R197 I kind of feel like Miles could be a nelly top or worst case scenario, a nelly straight. They do exist.

R198, I doubt it. He basically came out with that Instagram post when he said he wasn't into labels. That is something a guy who is into guys would say.

r199 He should have done it publicly.

He can do whatever he wants.

He looks so different with his current hair, much softer and rounder than before.

Miles with Jordan Doww. So cute together

Doww is a confirmed gay right?

Yes, Jordan Doww is a gay YouTuber

lol

[quote]Woke from a nap next to this. So in sync not one noodle spilled onto my broad, manly shoulder. Incredible. 🍜🙎🏼‍♂️🤳🏻

How long before Miles comes out? Any guess?

As has already been said, Miles is post-orientation.

R211 In the old days, they called that confused.

You may be confused, but Miles is not.

Miles looks confused to me.

Miles already came out. He said he's not into labels.

I feel like Miles knows exactly who he is and doesn't really care what others think.

[quote]Deranged fandom 101: Make certain there's a desk between you and your subject. Step 2: Smile blankly. And most importantly, step 3: Hold their hand. Love you Ru @rupaulofficial

Miles looks like he stepped out of a time machine from the seventies.

He does seem out of time.

He looks like a 13 year old boy and you are all sick pedophiles

R220 Well, he might look younger but he is of legal age. In Asia and especially Japan looking like jaibait is a huge plus.

r220 13 year olds don't have all that facial hair.

He seems so miscast in 13 Reasons. I'm only halfway through the series so I'm expecting his character to come out of the closet soon. Perhaps he was up for Clay and they threw him a bone? He'd be much more suited for Clay but Dylan Minnette is a breakout in that role. I think that's his name. Either way, the kid playing Clay is very well cast although way too adorable to be believed as a nerd.

I'd like to know if he thinks his "Parenthood" character should have been gay.

I love his little stache.

R227 That is so queeny it hurts.

Does he look straight to you in this?

Not at all. He seemed straighter in Parenthood, and even then I expected Drew to come out at any moment. I like how they incorporated his nose piercing into the show though.

His hair on 13 RW was ridiculous. Was this supposed to be some finger wagging message where the audience should be ashamed for thinking that the character is gay because he looked gay with that hair?

Miles is so thin...

That Dylan Minnette's a pretty one, isn't he?

r235 How did Miles seem gayer in that clip? He doesn't even say anything, unlike the one at r231

For some reason I don't find the lead actor attractive. I like Miles, Brandon, and the actors playing Tony and Jeff.

I've never understood the allure of nose rings. Was the person an ox in a previous life or something?

Speaking of, why do they give oxen nose rings in the first place?

I saw him at the Arclight with a guy (it was before 13 reasons so IDk if it was THIS guy) and he looked to be on a date.

Hope he got laid that night.

Does Miles strike anyone as top or bottom?

I think he could be versatile.

I can easily see him as a top to be honest, but I wouldn't be surprised if he bottoms. Either way, I hope he fucks good and often.

Oral and mutual jacking. Lots of kissing.

[quote]Speaking of, why do they give oxen nose rings in the first place?

So they can be led around easily, you know, by the nose. Jeez Millennials are dumb.

Miles and Brandon kissing!

Here's the full short film.

Wow. That footage makes me so happy. Seeing Miles kiss a guy just feels right, and I'm still salty they didn't let him do that on Parenthood.

Wait, are they a couple or not? I thought they'd denied it.

R258, idk.. maybe it was from a different project? A new movie or tv show? Or maybe it was an audition of some sorts? Or they were fooling around. I don't doubt that they are both bi or gay and are good friends but I kinda doubt they're together. Their rep denied it. That said, maybe they're fwb? Lol

This is all so confusing.

Nvm, just as I suspected it was for a short film. Thanks for posting it, R256.

Why is it confusing, R260? They're acting, they're actors. Yeah, they are probably both bi or gay irl, but I actually think they are just friends. Newsflash not all gay guys fuck each other lol. Gays are capable of just being friends.

[quote]Newsflash not all gay guys fuck each other lol. Gays are capable of just being friends.

How many of your friends have you gotten naked with?

Are either of them out? I'd never heard of either until 13 Reasons Why, so I guess I'm playing catch-up. Miles couldn't play straight to save his life.

[quote]Newsflash not all gay guys fuck each other lol. Gays are capable of just being friends.

This is very true. Don't know what it is going on with them but I have some very close gay friends that I've been spent tons of time with, but we are just friends, nothing more.

This is a comment on the video:

[quote]Some of you seem to be really confused about the video of Brandon and Miles kissing : the only thing I know is that it's sort of a mini clip/project about LGBT rights. There won't be anything related to it again, it was only a sort of sketch

r262 But the video looks like random shots. It's more like documentary. There isn't anything that says they're playing characters.

With all the pics of them together, and now this, if they're not a couple they're doing a lot to give the impression that they are.

Btw, has Miles ever looked that comfortable kissing a girl?

That was very, very short, r256.

R267 It's more like a (mock) political ad. The ominous narration in contrast to the happy images of gay couples is interesting. And Miles/Brandon are cute overload.

Kevin Rios made this short film. This is how he described it on his Vimeo:

[quote]In this home movie collection of gay men, memory serves as an act of hope, power, and above all, resilience.

[quote]Thanks to the boys:

[quote]Mike Mensah

[quote]Sergio Duarte

[quote]Brandon Flynn

[quote]Miles Heizer

[quote]Frankie Kraft

[quote]Nicholas Ley

[quote]Will Branske

It's safe to assume, at the very least, that the dudes he listed are gay. Whether the couples shown are real or merely acted out is another question. I'm also not sure whether these were legitimate home movies, or Rios was there filming in cinema verite. It looks like a mix of both. The footage of the couples in the bathroom and on the beach look legit, but Miles and Brandon were with one other person (possibly Rios) at the Griffith Observatory. However, the footage of them in the bedroom could have been taken by just them.

Keep in mind that the video is two months old and was up before 13 Reasons Why even aired. It's possible that Miles and Brandon were together at the time, but have since broken up, or they were always just friends.

Either way, quality find.

So the director outed Miles and Brandon as gay, if not as a couple?

It seems like a project done with/among friends, so one can assume it's a group of (mostly) gay friends. Of course with actors, they can always say they were playing gay for the project. But gotta love that Miles and Brandon were paired together, though.

Wouldn't be surprised if they were/are together and were told to say they were just friends by their PR or something. Everyone ships them though, so I can't see it having any detrimental impact on the show.

R273 The fangurls love this kind of shit. The more they deny it the more they think it's a conspiracy and only they can figure out the truth.

LOL The MTV.com is making a story out of this.

At this point they're obligated to date

r277 I'm 99% sure they have, even if they aren't actually dating.

I hope so. Miles deserves dick.

They're an adorable couple, even if they're not.

Miles and Brandon kiss. Again!

It's rather funny the get so much attention as a possible-couple even though neither one of them is even out.

They might as well come out officially, it's not like they are fooling anyone. I mean Miles especially can't even play straight.

Miles played straight on Parenthood.

Miles "played straight" on 13 Reasons Why as well. The operative point is the audience didn't quite buy it.

Did he do so convincingly? He didn't on 13 Reasons Why.

r291 He was more obviously queeny on 13 Reasons. He hid it better on Parenthood.

I thought he was gay on Parenthood too though, R293. I remember being frustrated because the showrunner didn't make him gay despite the obvious fact that he was. They made his sister lesbian though, of course! Smh..

R294, his sister Amber (Mae Whitman) wasn't gay. It was his cousin Haddie (Sarah Ramos).

He is not a boy who looks better in platinum hair.

I agree with R293 about him hiding it better on Parenthood, where he was more of a sensitive straight boy who grew up with women. I've known guys like that, so it was easier to buy. Still thought he was gay and wanted him to come out, but that desire didn't distract from the character. I haven't seen 13 Reasons Why, but in the clips posted here reads more gay than he ever did on Parenthood. The nose ring and platinum hair don't help.

Did Miles have much airtime in Parenthood? Should I watch it on DVD?

R299 Then I guess I will have to make ample use of the fast forward button.

The show as a whole is really good. I love it. There's more Drew in the early to mid seasons... I remember him sort of disappearing once the character went off to college, though he's still present throughout. It's one of the main reasons why I wanted him to come out so he could get a central storyline one seasons or something.

Drew is the 13th most important character, after Adam, Kristina, Zeek, Sarah, Crosby, Julia, Max, Amber, Jasmine, Camille, Jabar, Haddie, and even adopted Victor.

It was the main reason I assumed he was gay.

R302 That actually makes a lot of sense. ;D

Miles should play Doug Ramsey, a.k.a. Cypher, the gayest of all X-Men, in the upcoming New Mutants film.

Miles was pretty cute in his supporting role in "Nerve". The movie sucks though.

r308 Miles is pretty AND cute :)

Have any of the boys responded to the recent hoopla over their video?

R310 Do they need to? They kissed in a short film not kissing in real life, so there is no need for them to assert that it wasn't for real.

Does anybody think Miles is really a virgin?

r310 But they weren't playing characters, they were themselves in that video.

If it was just for the short film, then what about all the other pics of them close and kissing?

Brandon had an IG story about Paul Tuller t-shirts supporting gays in Chechnya.

She's GAY!

The fact that they cast him as a guy being fought over by girls or pressuring a girl for sex is a joke. At least on Parenthood, he pulled off "sensitive straight boy".

Sure he's a virgin. Heterosexually.

I have a feeling he is the opposite of a virgin.

I watched a few episodes of the show and I think the biggest shocker is that his character is straight.

Seriously. I kept hoping his sexuality would be a plot point but... nope.

Are we talking about Parenthood or 13 Reasons Why?

I kept waiting for Tommy Dorfman's character to get together with Mile's character.

r329 Maybe it will happen in season 2

If his character is even alive in season 2

Nasty looking pastyfaced white twink. Next!

I'd love to know what the casting director was thinking, putting him in the 13 Reasons Why role. He was, in no way shape or form, convincing as a guy who desperate wanted his girlfriend to put out

R333 The target audience is not jaded adults. The kids will believe anything...

That this thread is approaching 340 replies indicates we still have a few ancient old tops on here.

His nose is quite large, but it has a very sleek shape and he has a wide face, so it's not as noticeable.

It's Miles' birthday today. Can't believe he's 23

That nose ring has got to go

I'm not a fan of it either, but it's a reflection of his fuck it attitude, which turns me on. Quite paradoxical.

Everything about Miles turns me on. :)

Should Miles start doing sex scenes? If so, then with who?

I think he's so cute. I bet he has a nice dick.

He looks like he would get into drug and end up in rehab.

Nah. He seems like a clever, level-headed dude.

Miles appeared on this podcast. If you doubted his sexuality before this, you won't after. Purses everywhere.

Yeah, wow. That's not subtle at all.

"I'm a scream queen."

"I was obsessed with "Tegan and Sara..."

What are you watching on TV? "Uh, Drag Race of course, you guys...[Valentina] is so beautiful"

Where did you watch [Ru Paul's Drag Race]? "Faultline...there's like a neon dick with cum shooting out of it on the wall..."

"I told my manager 'reach out' [about being a guest judge on Drag Race]'"

"My butt is on fire."

"I'm a prime target to get read. Hard."

"I like, went a drag show, and..."

"Scruff team...what is it?

"I look better a girl, maybe."

"I have raging pee shyness..."

Y'all, Miles doesn't feel like he needs to hide anything. I like him more.

His middle name is Dominic.

Miles enjoys including the D whenever he can.

This podcast did not ask the tough questions like: Cut or Uncut? Top or Bottom? Gay or Queer?

He has such a pretty voice.

I kind of appreciate that he hasn't advertised the "queer" label like Ezra, vs just being open that his personal interests STRONGLY align with gay culture. He also seems fairly humble, and even admitted the silliness of his IG handle.

He seems to have a bit of a drawl.

Aww, he's friends with Thomas Mann. Also, he's lived in Mae Whitman's guest house for five years! I love that.

[quote]He seems to have a bit of a drawl.

He's from Kentucky.

r369 Maybe he's just Gay.

R375 69...tee hee. Hope Brandon was with him.

No world exists in which a heterosexual male is obsessed with Rupaul's drag race.

[quote]I kind of appreciate that he hasn't advertised the "queer" label like Ezra

Who is Ezra?

I hope Miles doesn't transition.

R379 Ezra Miller who plays the Flash in the DC films.

What are the chances that Miles is actually straight?

Straight? That would be 0.0% r381

He's still young. I give him another 2 years before he comes out.

There are femme straight men in the world! Miles could be one of them.

He needs to start playing gay roles fast.

I just started looking at 13 Ways recently. I was surprised at how effeminate Miles was. Pleasantly surprised. And I don't care what some PR Flack says Miles and Brandon are dating. Or at least fucking. If it looks like a relationship, walks Like a relationship and quacks like a relationship it's a relationship.

You queens have no shame. He legit looks 15 years old. You wonder why hets think we're all pedos, it's bc most of you are. Sad!

I'm rooting for him cuz he reminds me of a younger me. Awkward and effeminate. Hope he's getting Brandon and a lot of hot boys. I was too shy and felt too "gay" to attract guys so I like seeing guys like Miles being accepted.

Please die, R387, and take your corpse with you. According to the likes of panty droppings like you, I should not have had sex until I was nearly 30, as I didn't have to shave every day until I was 28. Please...begone...permanently, with your pedoshit.

[quote]There are femme straight men in the world! Miles could be one of them.

Do you think Miles's character in 13 Reasons Why will be gay in season 2?

Considering what happened at the end of season 1 to his character... who knows.

Something about Miles is just irresistible to me. He's not even really my type. But I am just SO fricking attracted to him.

I wonder what it would be like to have sex with Miles.

R398 It would be gentle and loving with lots of slow caressing and kissing and it would take hours. After about five minutes you'd want to get the hell out.

I'm pretty sure it's not necessary to keep re-posting his entire Instagram feed here.

R400 How else are we to critique this twink?

I don't get the point of that pic, R396, is he comparing them to those two other guys? Is he hinting at a new movie or tv show? Is he dating that guy? I'm so confused.

He's just being amusing. Mostly amusing himself...

[quote]Mostly amusing himself...

That's what I love about him. He's not here for our pleasure. He's here for his. I think sex with him would be pretty passionate... I feel like he'd be an active participant, no matter the sexual position. This is all speculation of course.

Tell me he's not beautiful...

Brandon's Paris Pride post was nice.

Is that Brandon's way of subtly coming out? Surprised Miles isn't there.

Yeah, probably. Not that Brandon was hiding it....

Miles was on the SF float, I think.

Brandon posted this on his IG story for some reason

Brandon seems charming. And Miles seems to be quite a fixture on his IG...

Who's the viperish looking one with the "look at my bangs" bangs?

Who's the tall brown haired guy in the middle of the Paris Pride pic?

The tall one in the Paris Pride pic is Marc Sebastian Faiella , a gay model

I don't think he needs to.

Congrats to Brandon for coming out, though he still didn't say the words I think it's safe to say that he's family.

[quote]Congrats to Brandon for coming out

He came out?

[quote]though he still didn't say the words

So he didn't come out.

[quote]I think it's safe to say that he's family.

We all know Miles and Brandon are gay, no shit sherlock, but they aren't out until they publicly say the words.

Right now no legitimate publication would refer to them as gay because they haven't come out.

Is Netflix the one who decided to send Brandon to Paris and Miles to SF? Boo!

Brandon's non-Netflix attire makes me think that he just decided to go to Paris with Tommy, since they are both into fashion & stuff.

Why haven't Miles and Brandon been in a photo together, or at least standing close to one another in a photo, since the story about them dating came out?

I thought they weren't dating. A publicist said they weren't :P

They were dating it was obvious however I don't think they are anymore I think Brandon might be dating Marc Sebastian since he went to Paris and Canada with Brandon and they're always flirty with each other

R422 Thanks. I see, so Brandon is with Marc and others on a private Paris trip... Brandon's hand on Marc's waist in R406 seems rather intimate.

I wonder who Miles is dating now.

Just realized that Troye Sivan's boyfriend Jacob Bixenman is there on the right in R406

Would seriously be unusual for Brandon to be the only non-gay in that pic...

Brandon follows @best_of_grindr so he was either using it for research for his short.. or he's just plain gay

Imma be honest I think miles and Brandon have been split up for quite a while I mean they've been awkward around each other and haven't interacted or seen each other in months I think they're both honestly dating other people at this point and don't wanna be public about it

What if they were never dating and just enjoyed hanging with the other gay actor on the set of 13 Reasons Why (except for Tommy Dorfman).

[R432] I don't think so Brandon is doing the exact same thing on instagram he used to do with miles and Brandon and Marc go everywhere together

Am I the only one who thinks miles sleeps around a lot lmao I don't know I get that vibe off of him

Dayum if Marc and Brandon are dating Brandon really upgraded

[R433] they meant miles not Marc lol but yeah miles and Brandon obviously dated at some point and if they didn't I'd be genuinely concerned on their level of friendship

Is Miles in the glass closet?

Miles is in the mime closet.

When is Miles going to show some skin? He almost never does.

[R441] he's said before he's very insecure and has anxiety so he probably won't ever do like a shirtless photo shoot or anything poor bby wearing long sleeve in summer

Miles is adorable. If I were a 130 lb twink, my little mussy would be all over social media. I guess it's a good thing I'm not.

I guess the gay rumors for Brandon will die into obscurity since nothing official has been said either way. At least until the next gay related pic/video surfaces.

R444, there's an ocean of difference between "nothing official" and "gay rumors...will die".

Brandon will likely still keep attending fashion shows with Tommy or posting/linking Ru-Paul-oriented things, because he enjoys those things. He's not exactly hiding anything. The rumors (basically just his mention in DL threads lol) will continue, I would imagine.

Marc's attractive, but I way prefer Miles. Sucks that he and Brandon aren't as chummy anymore.

Brandon and Marc make a cute couple.

It says so much about the progress that needs to be made than both Brandon and Miles still refuse to publicly acknowledge their sexuality in spite of it being hella obvious. Though many actors (hi Garrett Clayton) are also doing the same thing.

R447 The dreaded non-denial denials... "It's private... I don't wanna talk about it." I just take it as tentative confirmation with the young ones these days.

I miss miles and Brandon I wonder why they broke up

Now that Brandon has come out, will Miles come out too?

Come out? He paid for a meet n photo with RuPaul and he has no qualms about mentioning that he watches Drag Race at The Cock. What do you need? Him to pull a train live on chaturbate?

I can't believe this kid keeps getting cast in straight roles. He pings from space.

R451 Totally worth it too

Wait, Miles mentioned hanging out at THE COCK r451?! Dirty, dirty boy.

I thought he said he hung out at the Vault.

Yeah I would need a cite for that r451, just don't think Miles would advertise the cock on his social media. It is type of bar you go to secretly, the last gay bar in New York you can be filty slut at.

Who thought Brandon would come out before Miles?

R458 it was very obvious that would be the case Brandon has been praising lgbt rights forever where as miles tends to ignore that I don’t really think at this point miles will really “come out”

r459 Is it because Miles still wants to project a heterosexual image?

R460 I doubt it I think he just wants to Be private in that area of his life he hasn’t really denied being gay or lgbt so ya know I don’t think he’s really trying to be straight

Miles is actually really handsome

In his own way, R462, yes.

I don't mean that in a negative way, just-- he's very unique.

Miles is pretty overrated

R468 You just said this at R462

[quote]Miles is actually really handsome

Make up your mind.

In other news I think miles might be dating this Matt sukkar dude

Poodle. Was the Op's pic two guys or two gals?!

R470 Matt has big clown feet.

He’s attractive I guess

R472 Fangurls are projecting:

gmonorailoh no, you let @flynnagin11 get away... :

dinolam2000How do feel about Sam smith Lol

holyfrnkierohow heartbroken are you about brandon and sam smith?

And defending:

aliengothLeave Miles alone, you probably care more about Sam and Brandon dating than he does, y'all acting like cunts. Mind your own fucking business for fuck's sake!

I don't know why I didn't realize it before, but damn, Brandon is soooooooo attractive to me. And Miles even more so. Have to think they've both downgraded, if they ever were together.

Matt is cuter than Miles. The nose piercing is a total turnoff.

R475 yeah true I think Brandon downgraded more though I think miles and Matt could look good together but idk

R476 I do agree the nose piercing is gross but I think Matt and miles are the same level of attractiveness

R474 I think spamming comments about Brandon is a little unnecessary

I’m pretty sure Matt is straight I don’t think he and miles are dating

R480 I don't know... when he posts something like this on his Instagram.

R481 I mean Matt is a photographer so idk

He should be photographing Miles nude!

R483 lol I’m laughing But we never know he might

R85 I wouldn’t say he was jealous I’d say he was just saying happy bday to a friend I don’t perceive miles to do that kinda thing

So Miles and Brandon really broke up? :(

R487 yeah I wish I knew why tbh

I wonder if miles and Brandon will ever get back together

I’m pretty sure Matt is dating Frances cobain

Miles can have any boy he wants. He doesn't need Brandon.

Miles is a cutie anyone would be lucky to have him

Do y’all think miles is heartbroken over Brandon

Miles should appear in nude photos to express his heartbreak over losing Brandon

I feel like miles is getting sick of the 13rw cast he barely ever hangs with them and when he does he doesn’t look that happy

Then it should be fun when they starting shooting season 2.... the behind the scene drama, that is.

R497 they’ve already started they end filming next month I feel like miles won’t be hanging around them anymore after this

Will Miles still have to play str8 in season 2? It isnt what he does best.

R499 let’s be honest Alex is dead I don’t think he’ll be in the season much at all

Miles Should have been cast as Kevin Keller on RIVERDALE

R501 nah riverdale is bad

Now that miles is single I wonder who he’ll be dating after Brandon

Miles seems asexual to me.

R506 He seems too laid back to flirt and go after somebody, or maybe he just seems shy.

Someone as beautiful as Miles is shouldn't be shy.

I wonder if sam smith is jealous of him

Just watched the first two episodes of 13 Reason Why and I thought you bitches were exaggerating but damn... he's GAY.

His voice and mannerisms ruined the "sensitive alternative guy who is actually a straight douchebro" illusion they were probably going for. I knew closeted guys in high school who were kind of fey in the same way and would still pursue girls, only they seemed to go for the quiet "alternative" girls too. Jessica seemed way too much woman for Alex on the show. Total mismatch. By the other token, Brandon Flynn played the arrogant straight jock role really well.

Miles should of been Simon in love, Simon

R511 Miles is too serious-looking and laid-back to play Simon. Even broody Nick Robinson seems a bit of a miscast.

r506 Derp.

As a teen I was once called asexual by a classmate because of that - because I didn't show any obvious interest in anyone.

In truth I was obsessed with guys (and guy butts), had internet sex with men, and consumed huge quantities of gay porn. I didn't show interest IRL because I was shy and afraid of getting a no and then have people in school know all about it.

Having a sexual interest is far more common than being asexual, especially among men. So, if a guy looks a bit too reserved sexually, your first explanation you should look for isn't that he's asexual.

And Miles has been sexual before - doesn't he have a homemade video of him kissing Brandon to "fight homophobia"? And that photo of Brandon laying his head on Miles' lap, both shirtless, is pure homoeroticism. That there also is an intruding gash in the picture doesn't erase this fact.

I remember when Wentworth Miller's frau fans started to say he was asexual to explain his apparent lack of dating life.

Absence of proof is not proof of absence, people!

Does anybody think Miles was even trying to play str8 on 13rw?

Miles was just being himself - which happens to be gay as fuck.

I kept waiting for miles is character to come out on 13 Reasons Why. His performance really took me out of the illusion because it's so obvious he's gay. I'm sure he could butch it up if he wanted to but I don't think he wants to. Which is fine with me. I like pretty fem boys like Miles anyway.

Who do you guys prefer miles or Brandon?

R519 why not personality?

R522 lol I’m not Brandon I’m just curious as to why you don’t like his personality

Miles and Matt the other day

Miles should get rid of that facial hair!

I wonder if Miles ever had any encounters with Kevin Spacey?

Miles is obviously gay, he doesn't really hide it either. He played a gay character for the first time when he was 13. Is this life imitating art? Kinda reminds me of Degrassi, Adamo Ruggiero played Marco who came out as gay, then he himself came out as gay just a few years later.

So Matt and Miles are together, right?

I hope miles finds a nice long committed healthy relationship he deserves it

R229 nope they’re just friends

He's going to be a guest judge on season 10 of RuPaul's Drag Race - does this count as coming out?

I don't know how Miss Thing can keep on playing coy after that.

R534 I wonder if he will seem less affected with his hair de-platinumed.

Has he ever had sex with another male, though?

I wonder how he feels about Sam Smith stealing his man.

R542 No, but does he even need to? He would have to come out as straight to surprise anyone.

Yeah, but when both Keiynan Lonsdale and DL Fave Joey Pollari used Love, Simon as a reason to come out, he could have too.

R544 He might not want to share the spotlight!

Every time this thread gets bumped I think he came out. Stop getting my hopes up, R548.

He really should come out at this point. Someone as beautiful as Miles is would be a gay icon.

[quote]Someone as beautiful as Miles is would be a gay icon.

Snort, hi Miles mother!

Anyway, it is so obvious that he is gay the actual act of coming out is a bit superfluous at this point. Everyone knows he is gay. Hell, he got attacked for being too gay for 13 Reasons Why even with him not being out yet.

It's weird that Miles gets all these str8 roles when hes never convincing in them, but he's never played an out gay character.

He seems like a snot. I don't want him to come out.

[quote]It's weird that Miles gets all these str8 roles when hes never convincing in them, but he's never played an out gay character.

Um, he has. He played a character who was in a relationship with Brandon Flynn's.

Technically his character in Love Simon was bisexual (at least in the book)

r556 He had a relationship with Brandon OFF the set of 13 Reasons Why. They didn't have a relationship on the show.

Miles in character as Alex from the character's IG story

R561 In this crowd, Miles actually looks like the "straight" one.

Miles is looking studly lately. Hope he's not with Tommy, though.

Didn't Miles claim a while ago that he's still a virgin?

Can't find anything talking about his virginity

[quiote]Hope he's not with Tommy, though.

Tommy Dorfman has a husband.

R569 Yeah, right... Marriage will stop a gay man from hooking up.

They likely have an open marriage

Tommy was on Nico Tortorella's podcast and said they had an open marriage

So Miles and Tommy are a good possibility then? That's very exciting.

It was Miles' birthday and no one cared?

He's even MORE inept at playing straight on season 2 of 13 REASONS.

He got a boner wrestling with Zack in season 2

lol

Brandon Flynn plays straight okay.

I thought for sure that was going to introduce Alex discovering his sexuality, making it easier for Miles to play. Instead they avoided it. :(

He's going to be a guest judge on Rupaul's Drag Race this week

Brandon plays hetero very convincingly, but his character is a troubled football jock so it's a stock character that's very easy to play into. Miles plays more of a sensitive loner, so even as straight the character can always read as gay.

Miles really felt more like Jessica's gay BFF than potential love interest.

I bought Miles as "sensitive straight" on Parenthood, but he was laughable at it on 13 Reasons.

I find his features really delicate and pretty. He’s awful on 13 Reasons Why though: wooden and obviously not convincing as a straight guy. They should at least make his character bi.

I bet Brandon being there was messing with Miles' straight acting. LOL

This show will never show gay PDA. Lesbian PDA? Sure, that's hot!!! We can't have two guys kissing each other though! Fucking ridiculous.

...Tony and Caleb kissed.

So they are establishing that Alex is actually gay r576?

r590 No. It's weird because it seems like they're going in that direction right up until that scene. There's even a scene earlier where Alex tries to jerk off to a cam girl and cant get hard. But they drop it right after that and keep making Alex str8.

So Alex getting hard while wrestling the guy is just treated as a one-off joke? They must purposely be toying with how everyone said Alex seems gay.

I suppose I need to watch season 2, I'll do it eventually.

Why couldn't they have just made Alex bi? It would explain his hookups with girls earlier, the fangirls would still be happy. It'd be a win-win. Keeping him straight is fucking dumb.

Maybe Miles doesn't want people to think he might be gay. Thats probably why he denied he was dating Brandon last year. He wants to maintain his str8 image.

He was a terrible judge on Drag Race. No personality at all.

If he wants people to think he's straight, he's doing a terrible job.

Something very gay about this

Is somebody going to make a Part 2 for this thread?

[quote]Hope he's not with Tommy, though.

Why? Maybe they like each other in that very special way.

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